Welcome to the reMAKERS…
…a conversation that asks, ‘what is the best version of us, and how do we actually build it?’ How can we be more collaborative, transformative and ambitious? How can we help change systems, not just treat symptoms?
This is your home for nuanced, curious chats with Lily and Millie, alongside some of our most impactful leaders, thinkers and reMAKERs from all walks of life. It’s about politics and social change, about humans and all our weird and wonderful ways, about celebrating what we love while we reMAKE even more of the world we want. It’s a place to try on big ideas, change our minds, hear different perspectives and explore less chartered territory. Guests’ views are their own, obviously, and it would be pretty boring if we always agreed with each other and everything we heard.
We acknowledge the Traditional Custodians of the lands and waters where we live, work, play and record these various conversations — honouring Elders past and present.
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Season 2 out now!
I’m Lilian Spencer, Communications Lead for Australia reMADE and host of the reMAKERs. I’m from the US originally but have been lucky enough to spend the last 20-some years enjoying the beaches, coffee and eye-watering price of housing in Sydney, Australia. I’ve also got two young children, who keep me motivated, laughing, tidying endless mess and addicted to caffeine.
Before joining Australia reMADE I worked as a communications advisor for social enterprises, non-profits, campaigning organisations and the occasional political campaign —but I was never tribal enough for a fully fledged career in party politics. It seems the older I get, the less interested I am in ‘us vs them’, and the more interested I’ve become in building a larger us.
Australia reMADE and our community of reMAKERs inspire, challenge and delight me with their brilliant brains and beautiful hearts. You can find me on LinkedIn, or email me and the team at podcast@AustraliareMADE.org.
I’m Millie Rooney, National Coordinator of Australia reMADE and frequent cohost on the reMAKERS!
As a kid, I spent hours collecting toothbrushes outside supermarkets for Gulf War refugees and, although I wasn’t allowed to watch movies for fear of scary themes like ‘divorce’, was aware from a young age of scarier things like ‘war’. As a result, my childhood dream was to become a butterfly dancer on stilts, catch the eye of a journalist and make it to the front page of the paper so that there could be some good news for once. Is it any surprise I ended up involved in something like Australia reMADE?
Prior to joining Australia reMADE I also worked as an environment officer at both the Australian National University and the University of Tasmania. At the latter, I attended a single seminar on the power of ‘delight not fright’ that changed the course of my life and work. It’s a funny world.
I grew up in Canberra on Ngunnawal country, and although I now call Tasmania home, I still miss the dry scrappy dirt, the warble of the magpies and the smooth, flat bike paths. You can find me on Twitter at @_MillieRooney, or get in touch with me and the team at info@AustraliareMADE.org.
Show credits:
The reMAKERS is produced by the multi-talented Anna Wilson.
Thanks to our Chair (and source of wisdom and sanity) Louise Tarrant.
Episodes
Season 3, Ep 13: IMAGI-NATION with Jack Manning Bancroft
In this conversation, you’re invited into a values system revolution with Indigenous systems thinker, Jack Manning Bancroft. Imagine a more expansive, relational, nature-based economy and approach to solving our biggest challenges. Imagine Imagination Labs in schools, and traditional companies transformed into Joy Corps. Imagine death dates for every organisation on the planet. Learn about it here, and so much more.
Season 3, Ep 12: Caring through Disaster with Dr Millie Rooney and Rachel Hay
Author Rebecca Solnit has described disasters as a “portal to paradise”, where the usual stuff falls away and we’re freed from the constraints that usually keep us apart. But what if we could build the paradise now, instead of waiting for disaster to strike?
Season 3, Ep 11: A Wellbeing Economy for All, with Lisa Hough-Stewart and Amanda Janoo
The thing about paradigms is it’s hard to believe they can change, until they do. Meet the leaders from WEAll, the global Wellbeing Economy Alliance, who have front row seats to the wellbeing economy movement taking flight all over the globe.
Season 3, Ep 10: thinking in (eco)systems with Dr Vishnu Prahalad
What if the answer to our biggest scientific challenges wasn’t just more science? What historical worldviews are still shaping how we operate today? Do vultures have a right to exist? Dr Vishnu Prahalad is an ecologist, conservationist and systems thinker who helps us connect the dots in this fascinating interview.
Season 3, Ep 9: Mark Zirnsak
How do we reMAKE our systems to treat people with respect, kindness and empathy? Mark Zirnsak works on issues from climate change and tax to gambling and modern slavery in his work with the Uniting Church. He is an uncommonly thoughtful person determined to get to the heart of the issues that matter, and this gentle, reflective conversation had us leaning in.
Season 3, Ep 8: Purpose-driven business with Sally Hill
Like it or not, business is a core organising principle in society. So how do we make it a force for good? Impact investor and purpose-driven business leader Sally Hill talks to us about transforming business from the inside out.
Season 3, Ep 7: building an economy that doesn't screw young people, with Jane Body and Thomas Walker
Young people today have the deck stacked against them, and they know it. Their HECs debts are growing, their confidence in the future is shaky, and it’s feeling nigh impossible for all but the most fortunate to build the basics of a good life. Meet two millennial leaders determined to turn things around.
Season 3, Ep 6: Richard Denniss calls bullsh-t
What nice things could we have as a country if we stopped believing they were too expensive? How could we better solve our problems if we stopped being intimidated by economics? Economist Richard Denniss joins us for a refreshingly frank discussion about the way economics is used to conceal power and priorities.
Season 3, Ep 5: Sophie Howe on How A Country can Transform
Imagine, for a moment, having “conscience of the nation and voice of future generations” as your job description. For seven years, that was basically Sophie Howe’s job, as the first ever Future Generations Commissioner for Wales…
Season 3, Ep 4: John Quiggin wants you to get a pay rise
Would you like to work less and be paid the same, if not more? Economist and Professor John Quiggin thinks that’s entirely reasonable, and he’s here to talk us through some of the biggest economic ideas of our time.
Season 3, Ep 3: The Economics of Arrival with Dr Katherine Trebeck
Is more always better, or is it time for us to consider a new purpose for our economy? How could we spend public money better, solve our problems ‘upstream’ at the source, and equip people to lead better lives — without pushing our planet to breaking point? This is a must-listen episode, with Dr Katherine Trebeck, author and co-founder of the global Wellbeing Economy Alliance.
Season 3, Ep 2: The road to wellbeing
Imagine a government in Australia dedicated to promoting long-term, holistic wellbeing in everything that it did. Imagine a National Conversation about ‘the Australia We Want’ across our workplaces, community groups and schools. Our next guest tells us why it’s possible, and how we can make wellbeing work.
Season 3, Ep 1: reMAKING Economics 101
Steven Hail and Gabrielle Bond tell us why they quit their jobs to offer the kind of economics degree the world needs now. It’s a conversation about money, power and where we need to go if we want to solve climate change, rising inequality and the cost of living crisis.